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ADVANCED BREEDING GUIDE
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Are you new to breeding? If you are unfamiliar with the mechanics of breeding in VDex (which is similar and based off of the breeding system in the actual Pokemon games), please read the the breeding section in the Guidebook. This guide does not cover any basics. You will require some understanding of them to get into the advanced aspects of the system, so please read the guidebook before asking questions about them.

Welcome to the Advanced Breeding Guide! This guide covers the more complex areas of the breeding system. If you've purchased your Egg Scope and want to learn how to use those expensive held breeding items you've got, you're in the right place! I try to keep this guide as correct and up-to-date as possible, but as I am only one person, I may miss things here and there. As I am no longer an active VDex user, I urge you to send me a PM if you notice any information that desperately needs an update. Thank you!

Image Note About the Egg Scope: This guide assumes that you have purchased the Egg Scope (8 DP at the Donation Shop, or $80,000 at the Key Items Shop). You need this if you intend to get into the advanced aspects of the VDex breeding system, since going without it will rob you of a lot of the control you get over the process.

Image Compatibility
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Compatibility determines how long it takes to produce an egg. There are seven stages increasing once every 24 hours; the rate at which eggs are produced increases with every stage. The starting stage is determined by the Pokemon you have selected as parents. Having Rei as a partner automatically bumps up the starting stage by one. You can also use the donation item Bottled Love to speed up compatibility. Please see Other Breeding Items for details.

Removing either of the parents from the Daycare will reset compatibility.

    Incompatible: "The two Pokémon aren't interested in frolicking at all."
      The breeding pair is incompatible and cannot produce an egg. They may be in the wrong egg groups, or just lack the ability to breed. They may also be related -- siblings and parents/children cannot breed.

    Stage One: "The two Pokémon don't seem too interested in frolicking."
      All breeding pairs with a Ditto parent start at this stage. One egg is produced every 24 hours.

    Stage Two: "The two Pokémon might be willing to negotiate frolicking."
      Breeding pairs within the same egg group start at this stage. One egg is produced every 20 hours, or 24 hours with an Everstone.

    Stage Three: "The two Pokémon frolic sometimes."
      Breeding pairs of the same species start at this stage. One egg is produced every 14 hours, or 24 hours with an Everstone.

    Stage Four: "The two Pokemon enjoy frolicking."
      One egg is produced every 12 hours, or 24 hours with an Everstone.

    Stage Five-Six: "The two Pokemon enjoy frolicking."
      One egg is produced every 6 hours, or 12 hours with an Everstone.

    Stage Seven: "The two Pokémon frolic so often that it's hard to keep them apart."
      One egg is produced every hour, or 2 hours with an Everstone.


Image Chances of Success
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You can use the Daycare Fee/Probability Calculator to calculate probabilities and fees. However, if you want to learn how to do the calculations yourself, forge on ahead!

Using breeding items such as Everstones or Brightpowder will affect the chance of producing the offspring you want. These items will also affect daycare fees, which you can read about in the last section of this guide. When breeding without items, the same chances of finding shinies or retros in the wild apply to the offspring.

Stacking Percentages:
You can calculate stacked percentages by using the ratios of success for each breeding item used. (e.g. Say you want to breed a shiny Halloween Duskull. 1/50 is the chance of breeding a Halloween Duskull with an Everstone, and 1/20 is the chance of getting a shiny with Brightpowder.) The denominators of each fraction are your multipliers. All you have to do is multiply these numbers, then divide 1 by your result. See the list below for the multipliers for each type of chance-based breeding item.

    Item Multipliers:
  • Everstone: Refer to the "Multiplier" value for the Everstone-holding parent's desired trait in the table below.
  • Brightpowder: 20
  • ShiningPowder: 10 (See "Effect of ShiningPowder" below.)
  • SecretPotion: 10

So continuing with our example, the chance of breeding a shiny Halloween Duskull (with the right parents) can be calculated like this:
Example wrote:
Image
50 [Halloween sprite] * 20 [Brightpowder] = 1,000 (Multiply the denominators.)
1/1,000 = 0.001 (Divide 1 by your result.)
100 * 0.001 = 0.1% (Multiply the decimal by 100 to get the percentage of success.)

Effect of ShiningPowder:
ShiningPowder is similar to Brightpowder, but vastly improves your chances of getting the desired sprite when combined with an Everstone. When used with an Everstone, the chance of getting a shiny (if the ShP holding parent is shiny) is 10% or the Everstone chance of success, whichever is lower. This means that if you're trying to breed a shiny event Pokemon (usually with a 2% or 5% chance of passing down the sprite), the ShiningPowder will make it so you will always get a shiny if the Everstone succeeds.

Everstone Chance of Success:
This table will tell you what chance you have of passing down a special sprite or nature with an Everstone. The Multiplier number is used in calculating complex percentages of success and retrieval fees. (See Daycare Fees)

    TRAIT | PERCENTAGE | MULTIPLIER
    HGSS | 100% | x1
    HGSS2 | 50% | x2
    PT | 50% | x2
    PT2 | 16.6% | x6
    DP | 25% | x4
    DP2 | 12.5% | x8
    FRLG/RS, BW Back Sprite | 10% | x10*
    Emerald | 8.3% | x12
    GS | 6.6% | x15
    Crystal | 5.5% | x18
    RBY, BW, Love Budew, Seasonal Eevees, Spooky Golett, Special Natures | 5% | x20
    Most Event/Parcel Sprites** | 2% | x50
    Green, Sad Bidoof (Box) | 1% | x100

The following nerfs to the final percentage of success will stack, if applicable. (source)
  • If the Everstone holder is a Ditto, halve the percentage.
  • If you lack an Egg Scope, halve the percentage.
  • If you lack an Egg Scope, are trying to breed for a special nature, and special-natured parent has a sprite type of Emerald or below on the chart, halve the percentage.

*The x10 multiplier is not used when calculating the retrieval fee for a BW back sprite egg, as the price is fixed at $100,000.

**Includes: Easter Buneary, Halloween 2010, Xmas 2009, Xmas 2010, Valentine's Vulpix, Valentine's Combee, Easter Mareep, Sad Bidoof, Light/Dark Ralts, AYE SIR Palette Swaps, Corrupt/Patch Absol, Halloween 2011, Pegasus Ponyta, Easter Togepi, Ghostmon 2012, Rainbow Smeargle, and more.


Image Breeding Shinies
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Image Image
Normally, the chance of breeding a shiny Pokemon is the same as you would get in the wild: 1/8192. However, you can drastically improve your chances with the held items Brightpowder and ShiningPowder. When they're given to a legitimate* shiny Pokemon in the Daycare, the offspring has a 1/20 (5%) or 1/10 (10%) chance of being shiny, respectively. Both items are consumed when you take the egg out of the Daycare, regardless of whether or not it's shiny.

It is highly recommended that you get an Egg Scope before breeding with BP or ShP, since it lets you see if an offspring is shiny or not.

*What is "legitimate"? - Legit shinies are those caught in the wild, or bred with Brightpowder. Shiny Ball'd Pokemon are not legit, and will not get the increased chance of breeding a shiny child with BP. (See below for more instances in which BP won't work.)

How to get Brightpowder and ShiningPowder:
Both items are created through Berry Synthesis (Image NPC Reed in Cherrygrove City).

  • To make Brightpowder, you need 10 each of Enigma, Micle, Custap, Jaboca, and Rowap berries, which are available from the PP shop. You can also buy it from other users in the Trade forum, with the going price sitting around 50k.
  • To make ShiningPowder, you need 2 each of Yache and Coba berries, and 3 Brightpowder. (source)

How Do They Work?
Image Brightpowder is simple. When given to a shiny parent, it creates the 5% chance of producing a shiny offspring.
Brightpowder Examples wrote:
Image(Image) x Image = 5% chance of Image
Image(Image) x Image = 5% chance of Image
Image ShiningPowder is a little more complex. It is meant to be used in conjunction with the Everstone when breeding rare shiny events with high retrieval/discard costs. It can be used simply as a "better Brightpowder" since it provides a 10% -- as opposed to 5% -- chance of producing a shiny child, but this is a waste of an expensive item.

When combined with an Everstone, the Shiningpowder will raise the chance of getting a shiny to either 10% or the Everstone's chance of success, whichever is lower. This means that if you are trying to breed something that has a percentage of success of 10% or lower on the table above, you will always get a shiny if the Everstone succeeds. For more information, see the Chances of Success section.
ShiningPowder Examples wrote:
Image(Image) x Image = 10% chance of Image
Image(Image) x Image(Image) = 2% chance of Image

When aren't BP/ShP Consumed?
  • You discard the egg.
  • You remove either parent from the Daycare. (Thus automatically discarding the egg.)

When shouldn't I use BP/ShP?
There is no point in using Brightpowder with certain event/donation sprites because these Pokemon have higher-than-normal chances of breeding shinies without BP. The fractions in parentheses indicate the chance of breeding a shiny of that sprite without BP. Using Shiningpowder is almost always advantageous even with these sprites, but using it will apply the 10x multiplier to the final retrieval fee. You should probably avoid using ShP to breed non-event shinies, since the cost of synthesizing it is so high.
  • Easter Buneary (1/7), Love Budew (1/7), Halloween Litwick (1/10)

Non-Compatible Sprites
The following event/donation sprites are not compatible with the powders. If you give BP/ShP to a shiny version of one of these Pokemon, it will not improve your chances of producing a shiny child. (i.e. You can still breed shinies with them, but you can't use them as the BP/ShP-carrying parent if you want the improved chance.) Please note that this list may not be exhaustive, as I can't seem to find the posts about older donation parcels and the contents within.
  • Easter Buneary, Seasonal Eevees, Love Budew, Valentine's Vulpix and Combee, Halloween Litwick, Pegasus Ponyta, Donation Dittos (e.g. Challenge, Nyoron~; excludes Pimp), and Star-Crossed Ralts


Image Everstone Breeding
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The Everstone is a highly valuable item for breeders, mostly used for breeding retro/donation/event sprites or special natures. When held, the parent has a chance of passing down its sprite type and nature, always both or neither. The Everstone cannot pass down shininess; the only way to do so is through Brightpowder.

How to Get an Everstone:
You will need 7x of each kind of berry, which you can then turn into an Everstone via Berry Synthesis. There is also a very slim chance of getting it in Gacha, or as a gift from Hari and Nao. (So slim, you'd be better off taking the time to grow/buy the berries, IMO.)

How it Works:
When given to a Pokemon in the Daycare, the Everstone adds the chance to pass down that Pokemon's sprite type and nature to the child.
Examples wrote:
Image (Image) x Image = 2% chance of Image
Image (Image) x Image (Image) = 5% chance of Image

Note that only one Everstone will work per breeding pair. It is pointless to acquire a second Everstone for yourself. For example, take the below breeding pair, in which the male Duskull has a Halloween sprite, and the female has the trollface.jpg nature.
Examples wrote:
Image (Image) x ImageImage (Image)
If both parents are holding Everstones, VDex will only 'apply' the Everstone to the parent on the left. In this case, you would only have the chance to breed an Halloween Duskull. You cannot breed a trollface.jpg Duskull unless you switch the pair so the mother is on the left, and it is impossible to breed a Duskull that is both Halloween and trollface.jpg using this pair.

Passing Down Natures:
Nature and sprite type are bound when Everstone breeding. For example, if you use a Yellow Pikachu with Brave nature as the Everstone parent, and successfully produce the Yellow offspring, said offspring will always have Brave nature as well.

If you are breeding for a nature with a parent that has a sprite type that has a greater than 5% chance of being passed down (Crystal and up), you will occasionally to always get a child with that sprite type, even if the nature isn't passed down. The retrieval fee for the special nature still applies. (source)

Alternatively, you may opt to use a SecretPotion (see Other Breeding Items above), which will pass down the nature of the parent it's given to without passing down the sprite. However, it can't be combined with an Everstone. Only one or the other will work.

Special Cases:
  • When Everstone breeding Valentine's Vulpix, Easter Mareep, AYESIR palette swaps, or any other event/donation sprite with multiple non-shiny color variations, the child takes its color from the color of the Everstone parent. (e.g. Everstone breeding a red Valentine's Vulpix will, upon success, produce a red child.) (source, source)
  • If the special white or black Valentine's Vulpixes are holding scarves when bred, the child will not hatch with bow.(source)
  • Since the special natures are tied to the Light and Dark Ralts sprites, taking a Light or Dark Ralts egg out of the Daycare will always cost $24,000. However only the nature multiplier will apply if breeding the nature to another species. (source)

Non-Compatible Sprites:
If you give the Everstone to a Pokemon with one of these sprites, there is no chance of passing it down to the child. Special natures, if any, can still be passed down via Everstone. (List may not be exhaustive. Please let me know if I can add anything!)

  • HSOWA Wailmer/Wailord
  • Any special Ditto sprite (e.g. Pimp Ditto, Nyoron~ Ditto)
  • Zodiac Pokemon (will become compatible once all 12 are released - source)


Image Daycare Fees
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You can use the Daycare Fee/Probability Calculator to calculate probabilities and fees. However, if you want to learn how to do the calculations yourself, forge on ahead!

You must pay a fee regardless of whether you're withdrawing or discarding an egg from the Daycare. Every breedable Pokemon is assigned a base retrieval fee, which is then modified once Everstone and/or Brightpowder breeding is brought into play. Retrieval fees are only affected if you own an Egg Scope. (source) Retrieval fees will never exceed $500,000.

Base Fees:
The discard fee for each base fee is included in brackets.
  • $50 [$45] - Magikarp
  • $100 [$90] - Most Pokemon; Any species that can only be bred with a Heart Gem (e.g. evolved forms)
  • $200 [$180] - Safari Zone and Bug Catching Contest exclusives; eggs bred with Plain Incense; rare Pokemon (Surskit, Yanma, Scyther, Pinsir, Kangaskhan, Chansey, Sudowoodo, Tauros, Miltank, Zangoose, Seviper, Ralts, Remoraid, Skitty, Kecleon, Heracross, Aipom, Pineco, Tropius, Dratini, Larvitar, Bagon, Gible, Shuckle, Nosepass, Torkoal, Skarmory, Snubbull, Chatot, Absol, Slakoth, Skorupi, Croagunk, Carnivine, Throh, Sawk, Axew, Tynamo, Deino)
  • $500 [$450] - Baby Pokemon; Honey exclusives (Combee, Burmy and Cherubi)
  • $1,000 [$500] - Starters; Event Pokemon that can be caught several times (Spiritomb, Snorlax, Fossil Pokemon); Audino, Drilbur, Pansage, Panpour, Pansear, Archen, Tirtouga, Alomomola, Emolga, Ducklett, Cryogonal
  • $3,000 [$1,500] - Feebas, Eevee, Lapras, Houndour, Riolu, Togepi, Phione, Porygon, Castform, Rotom, Drifloon, Tyrogue, Beldum, Zorua
  • $6,000 [$3,000] - Larvesta
  • $100,000 - BW back sprites (as passed down from Pokemon with the Back Ball); this fee is fixed, unless you are BP/special nature breeding as well, in which case it will cost even more. (source)

Avoiding Discard Fees:
You can avoid paying discard fees by removing and replacing a parent from the Daycare. Beware that this will reset the compatibility of the parents back to the starting stage. So essentially, you have two options: pay the discard fees and continue producing eggs at a rapid rate, or avoid the fees and wait longer for eggs.

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PART I: BASIC FORMULAS
In these examples, the base fee is bolded.

Brightpowder Multiplier:
When you use Brightpowder to breed a shiny, multiply the base fee by 20.
Examples wrote:
Base Fee * 20 = Retrieval Fee
Image 100 * 20 = $2,000
Image 3000 * 20 = $60,000


ShiningPowder Multiplier:
When you use ShiningPowder to breed a shiny, multiply the base fee by 10.
Examples wrote:
Base Fee * 10 = Retrieval Fee
Image 100 * 10 = $1,000
Image 3000 * 10 = $30,000


Retro/Event Sprite Multiplier:
If you're breeding for a retro, second-frame, or event/donation sprite, a multiplier will be applied based on how hard it is to breed that particular sprite. See the table under Chance of Success for a list of these multipliers. (The values you want are in the blue column.)
Examples wrote:
Base Fee * Sprite multiplier = Retrieval Fee
Image FRLG Stantler | 100 * 10 = $1,000
Image Gold Stantler | 100 * 15 = $1,500
Image Xmas '09 Stantler | 100 * 50 = $5,000


Special Nature Multiplier:
When you Everstone breed an offspring with a special nature, multiply the base fee by 20. This number is derived in the same way as the sprite multipliers, in that there is a 1/20 chance of passing down a special nature.
Examples wrote:
Base Fee * 20 = Retrieval Fee
Image Image 100 * 20 = $2,000


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PART II: STACKED FORMULAS
Sprite multiplier values can be found in the blue column of the table under Chances of Success.

Stacking Retro/Event Sprite and Brightpowder/ShiningPowder Breeding:
All multipliers stack. So if you're trying to breed a shiny Halloween Shuppet, you'll be paying the Everstone breeding fee, multiplied by Brightpowder multiplier of 20 or the ShiningPowder multiplier of 10.
Example wrote:
Base Fee * Sprite Multiplier * 20 = Retrieval Fee (Brightpowder)
Base Fee * Sprite Multiplier * 10 = Retrieval Fee (ShiningPowder)

ImageImage 100 [Base] * 50 [Halloween] * 20 [BP] = $100,000
ImageImage 100 [Base] * 50 [Halloween] * 10 [BP] = $50,000


Stacking Retro/Event Sprite and Special Nature Breeding:
There are two different formulas used for retro/event sprites with a special nature. These apply only if you have an Egg Scope. (source)

  • Formula A - Used if there is a 5% chance or greater of getting the sprite type. (HGSS, HGSS2, Pt, Pt2, DP, DP2, FRLG, RS, Emerald, Gold, Silver, Crystal, RBY, BW, Love Budew, Seasonal Eevee)
  • Formula B - Used if there is a less than 5% chance of getting the sprite type. (All others)

For example, this is how you would calculate the fee for a Platinum Duskull with "Swanky" nature.
Example - Formula A (Platinum Duskull) wrote:
(Base Fee * Sprite Multiplier) + (Base Fee * 20) = Retrieval Fee
ImageImage (100 [Base] * 2 [Platinum]) + (100 [Base] * 20) = $2,200

And this is how you'd do that with a Swanky Halloween Duskull.
Example - Formula B (Halloween Duskull) wrote:
(Base Fee * Sprite Multiplier * 2) + (Base Fee * 20) = Retrieval Fee
ImageImage (100 [Base] * 50 [Halloween] * 2) + (100 [Base] * 20) = $12,000


Stacking Retro/Event Sprite, Special Nature, and Brightpowder/ShiningPowder Breeding:
If you want the Swanky Halloween Duskull from the previous example to be shiny and are using Brightpowder (1/8000 or 0.000125% chance, very close to the success rate when hunting wild shinies!), simply tack on the Brightpowder multiplier. Just look at that retrieval fee skyrocket! Luckily, retrieval fees cap out at $500,000, so ambitious breeders will never be stuck paying $2 mil+ for an egg (as would most likely be the case if you were breeding a Pokemon with a more expensive retrieval fee, such as Eevee).
Brightpowder Example wrote:
((Base Fee * Sprite Multiplier * 2) + (Base Fee * 20)) * 20 = Retrieval Fee (Brightpowder)
ImageImageImage ((100 [Base] * 50 [Halloween] * 2) + (100 [Base] * 20)) * 20 [BP] = $240,000

If you are breeding a shiny event, it is recommended that you use ShiningPowder instead since it drastically improves your chances and reduces the retrieval cost by half.
ShiningPowder Example wrote:
((Base Fee * Sprite Multiplier * 2) + (Base Fee * 20)) * 10 = Retrieval Fee (ShiningPowder)
ImageImageImage ((100 [Base] * 50 [Halloween] * 2) + (100 [Base] * 20)) * 10 [ShP] = $120,000


Image Incense Breeding
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Incense is required to breed certain types of baby Pokemon. You can acquire Incense in the PP Shop for 10 PP apiece, except for Plain Incense, which requires 200 PP. You can also commonly find it in the Secondhand Shop.

Basic Incenses:
    ImageImage Full Incense - Breeds Munchlax when given to a Snorlax parent.
    ImageImage Lax Incense - Breeds Wynaut when given to a Wobbuffet parent.
    ImageImage Luck Incense - Breeds Happiny when given to a Chansey or Blissey parent.
    ImageImage Odd Incense - Breeds Mime Jr. when given to a Mr. Mime parent.
    ImageImage Pure Incense - Breeds Chingling when given to a Chimecho parent.
    ImageImage RockIncense - Breeds Bonsly when given to a Sudowoodo parent.
    ImageImage Rose Incense - Breeds Budew when given to a Roselia or Roserade parent.
    ImageImage Sea Incense - Breeds Azurill when given to a Marill or Azumarill parent.
    ImageImage Wave Incense - Breeds Mantyke when given to a Mantine parent.

Plain Incense:
Plain Incense stops Generation I Pokemon from producing baby Pokemon. It allows you to Everstone breed Generation I sprites for certain species with baby forms, which would otherwise be unobtainable. (e.g. If you wanted to breed a R/B Pikachu, it would not work without Plain Incense since Pikachu always produces Pichu, and the earliest available Pichu sprite is Generation II. The resulting Pichu would always be HGSS.) (source)

All eggs bred with Plain Incense (except for Tyrogue, which has the normal event fee of $3,000) cost $200 base to retrieve from the Daycare. [source]

    ImageImage - Breeds Pikachu when given to a Pikachu or Raichu parent.
    ImageImage - Breeds Clefairy when given to a Clefairy or Clefable parent.
    ImageImage - Breeds Jigglypuff when given to a Jigglypuff or Wigglytuff parent.
    ImageImage - Breeds Hitmonchan when given to a Hitmonchan parent.
    ImageImage - Breeds Hitmonlee when given to a Hitmonlee parent.
    ImageImage - Breeds Hitmontop when given to a Hitmontop parent.
    ImageImage - Breeds Jynx when given to a Jynx parent.
    ImageImage - Breeds Electabuzz when given to a Electabuzz or Electivire parent.
    ImageImage - Breeds Magmar when given to a Magmar or Magmortar parent.

Here is what you would do if you wanted to breed the R/B Pikachu mentioned above:
Breeding R/B Pikachu wrote:
R/B Father (Image) x ImageImage (Image) = 5% chance of R/B Image


Image Other Breeding Items
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This section covers miscellaneous items that can be given to Pokemon for breeding. All of these items are consumed on retrieval -- that is, you won't lose them for discarding eggs or withdrawing parents.

ImageHeart Scale:
The Heart Scale allows you to use a male Pokemon as if it were female. That is, when given to a male Pokemon in the Daycare, the offspring will take its species from the father instead of the mother. You cannot simultaneously breed with Incense, however this will give you more options when you want to Everstone or Brightpowder breed with a female Pokemon. It can be purchased in the Donation Shop for 1 DP. (source)


Image Heart Gem:
The Heart Gem was first available in the February 2012 Mystery Parcel and available afterwards in the Donation Shop for 3 DP. It is also available in Castelia City for 40k. If given to either parent, the child will always be the same species as the species-determining parent, even if the parent is an evolved form. Basically, it overrides the basic rule that offspring are always the lowest evolved form. This allows previously-unbreedable events, such as Halloween Froslass and Shedinja, to be bred. For instance, if you breed Froslass with a Heart Gem, the child will always be a Froslass. You can give an Everstone to a Halloween Froslass and a Heart Gem to a compatible mate to get the chance of breeding Halloween Froslass. (source)

Additionally, if the Heart Gem is used to breed a species which normally cannot be bred without its assistance (evolved Pokemon), the base fee will always be $100, and the discard fee $90. This can be used to drastically cut daycare fees from species like Eevee, though this comes with the caveat that you must breed one of its evolutions. Basically, you can use the Heart Gem to breed an Espeon for cheaper, but you won't get the reduced cost if you use it with an Eevee. (source


Image Bottled Love:
First available in the August 2011 Mystery Parcel, available afterwards in the Donation Shop for 3 DP. (source) Bottled Love can automatically maximize compatibility when given to a Pokemon in the Daycare. It is consumed when an egg is withdrawn, but not when the egg is discarded or either is parent removed. (Same as Brightpowder.)

Bottled Love is handy for breeding Pokemon with high discard fees, since you can withdraw and put back in a parent without resetting the compatibility. If the Bottled Love is consumed and you keep the parents in the Daycare, their compatibility will revert to whatever stage they would have been without it.


ImageSecretPotion:
When given to a Pokemon in the Daycare, SecretPotion will allow you to pass down that Pokemon's nature without passing down the sprite. This occurs at a 10% chance, which will stack with the chances from other held breeding items. It can be purchased in the Donation Shop for 3 DP. (source)

Things to Consider:
  • It won't work or be consumed if you don't own an Egg Scope.
  • It cannot be used in conjunction with the Everstone, unless the Everstone is rendered ineffective. (e.g. HSOWA or Pimp Ditto sprites) You still cannot pass down a sprite from one parent and a nature from the other.
  • The retrieval fee for SP breeding special natures is the same as those used for Everstone breeding special natures. The fee won't change if it is used to breed a normal nature.


ImageHSOWA Scale:
This item is only available in the August 2011 Mystery Parcel. If given to either partner in a Wailord/Skitty breeding pair, the child will always be a Wailitty (Wailmer with Skitty traits) or Skitmer (Skitty with Wailmer traits). Please note that those are names Shiro just made up on the spot, and the species of the Frankenstein children will still be Wailmer and Skitty. (source)

Image Image Image Image
You will get Wailitty if the child would ordinarily be a Wailmer. (i.e. Female Wailmer or male Wailmer w/ Heart Scale.)

Image Image Image Image
You will get Skitmer if the child would ordinarily be a Skitty. (i.e. Female Skitty or male Skitty w/ Heart Scale.)

Things to Consider:
  • The HSOWA Scale will only work if held by Skitty or Wailord when bred together. It won't work with Delcatty or Wailmer.
  • It can be combined with Brightpowder.
  • It can also be can be combined with an Everstone to pass down a special nature.
  • However, the HSOWA sprites cannot be passed down with an Everstone. It won't work if held by a HSOWA Pokemon.

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Image Latest Updates
July 21, 2013 I added Star Crossed Ralts to the list of Pokemon incompatible with BP/ShP. Please note that from now on, the update date on the thread title will only reflect major updates in the breeding system or to the guide text.
January 9, 2013 Several minor updates have been made. Tried to make the breeding examples consistent by changing as many as possible to feature Duskull.
February 6, 2012 Minor update with info about Valentine's Combee
January 24, 2012 Added info about the Heart Gem in the upcoming February parcel.
January 10, 2012 Added ShP to the Daycare Fees section and acheronta's suggestion for the "When shouldn't I use BP/ShP?" part of the guide. I also started a list of sprites that aren't compatible with the Everstone under the Everstone section.
January 9, 2012 Made some major revisions to the guide. Added a lot of information about ShiningPowder, reorganized the sections, and consolidated all information about calculating percentages of success into a new section.
October 22, 2011 Added some of the breeding info for recent event Pokemon.
October 12, 2011 Updated with information about SecretPotion breeding. Added Corrupt/Patch Absol to the Everstone chance list.

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Special Thanks:
  • xxKarachan, Arashi, Zarya, devian, SHPN and acheronta for typo and information corrections
  • xxKarachan for the links to all the breeding updates
  • Shirogane for all her corrections

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Don't forget the retrieval fee is capped at $500 000, I believe, so that What Is Love shiny Winter Eevee would "only" cost that much.

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Don't forget the retrieval fee is capped at $500 000, I believe, so that What Is Love shiny Winter Eevee would "only" cost that much.

Ah, I forgot about that! /goes to add

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You may also wish to add under the Daycare Fees section, the formula for the special nature+retro combination since that takes a slightly different formula ([base]*20 + 2*[base]*[chance of passing on/multiplier]). That formula should apply to special nature+event pokemon as well, if I'm not mistaken.

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You may also wish to add under the Daycare Fees section, the formula for the special nature+retro combination since that takes a slightly different formula ([base]*20 + 2*[base]*[chance of passing on/multiplier]). That formula should apply to special nature+event pokemon as well, if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks for bringing this up! I forgot there was a special formula -- I'll add that to the guide now.

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It would be a good idea to add, in the compatibly section, that when everstone breeding with an egg scope, the times are, iirc, twice as long. At max compatibility it takes two hours to get an egg instead of one.

This is a very thorough guide, and I'll be using it for fees/percentages all of the time, I'm sure! o/

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Also, you forgot the base price of starter eggs.
sry, it was there, just not exactly where I looked...

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It would be a good idea to add, in the compatibly section, that when everstone breeding with an egg scope, the times are, iirc, twice as long. At max compatibility it takes two hours to get an egg instead of one.

This is a very thorough guide, and I'll be using it for fees/percentages all of the time, I'm sure! o/

Ah, I didn't know that! /goes to add

I'm glad it helps! :D

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Ooh, this looks so much easier than having to consult the update topics all the time :D

Special natures are actually a 5% or 1/20 chance, though, not 2%.

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Ooh, this looks so much easier than having to consult the update topics all the time :D

Special natures are actually a 5% or 1/20 chance, though, not 2%.

Yeah, I thought so too! I got sick of having to pick through my bookmarks for breeding info, haha.

And fixed! This is why I shouldn't write VDex guides when I'm distracted/tired, lmao.

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Venus wrote:
Zarya wrote:
It would be a good idea to add, in the compatibly section, that when everstone breeding with an egg scope, the times are, iirc, twice as long. At max compatibility it takes two hours to get an egg instead of one.

This is a very thorough guide, and I'll be using it for fees/percentages all of the time, I'm sure! o/

Ah, I didn't know that! /goes to add

I'm glad it helps! :D

Actually, everstone breeding was doubled in all cases~
"Everstone breeding is now 2x slower thanks to this update (effective right now). This means that with or without the Egg Scope, Everstone bred eggs will take a minimum of 2 hours (at max compatibility) to be produced. The time an egg takes to be produced still never exceeds 24 hours."

Also, perhaps add all past updates to the breeding system? Like, a collection of "sources".

11-9-2009 Update & Bugfixes [New Partners+] (Everstone Release)
11-22-2009 New Feature [Breeding]
08-19-2010 Update [New Item, Partner Affection] (Plain Incense Release)
10-24-2010 Massive Update O' Doom [Berry Synthesis!] (BrightPowder Release)
11-3-2010 Update [Everstone changes/Ditto nerf]
11-8-2010 Update [More Everstone Stuff, Egg Scope Price]
12-7-2010 Update [Crystal Sprites] (Minor update: Crystal Everstone breeding stat)

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Other minor errors I noticed:

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$200 [$180] - Safari Zone and Bug Catching Contest exclusives; rare Pokemon (Surskit, Yanma, Scyther, Pinsir, Kangaskhan, Chansey, Snorlax, Sudowoodo, Tauros, Miltank, Zangoose, Seviper, Ralts, Remoraid, Skitty, Kecleon, Heracross, Aipom, Pineco, Tropius, Dratini, Larvitar, Bagon, Gible, Shuckle, Nosepass, Torkoal, Skarmory, Snubbull, Chatot, Absol, Slakoth, Skorupi, Croagunk and Carnivine)


Snorlax actually got moved to the $1000 group recently (this update), so it should be listed there with Spiritomb/fossils.

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Base Fee * Sprite Multiplier * 20 = Retrieval Fee
Image 100 [Base] * 20 [Halloween] * 20 [BP] = $40,000



The multiplier for Halloween Pokemon is 50, not 20, so this should be $100,000.

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That means if you want a shiny Winter Eevee with "What is love" nature, you can expect to pay out the ass. Observe:
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Base Fee * 20 + 2 * Base Fee * Sprite Multiplier = Retrieval Fee
Image 3,000 [Base] * 20 [Nature] + 2 * 3,000 [Base] * 20 [Winter] = $180,000



This would be the formula for a regular "What is love" Winter Eevee. For a shiny you'd have to multiply all of that by 20. That comes out to like $3 mil or something, though, and thus hits the 500k cap, so for the example it might work better to use a non-shiny.

...I have spent FAR too much time staring at the breeding-related updates that I know all this off the top of my head, orz.

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...I have spent FAR too much time staring at the breeding-related updates that I know all this off the top of my head, orz.

No, thank you for the corrections! I'm currently plowing down some homework, but I'll fix all of these errors as soon as I'm done.

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oh man this is a crazy useful guide, thank you so much <3 I'm about to get an everstone, so I've been starting to flick through the updates about it, and trying to work out formulas/breeding fees makes my head hurt XD

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The exact formulas are...

retros:

(base)*(sprite)*(brightpowder)

special nature:

3*(base)*(sprite)*(brightpowder) if the sprite multiplier is below 20 (HGSS, HGSS2, Pt, Pt2, DP, DP2, FRLG, RS, Emerald, Gold, Silver, Crystal)

(2*(base)*(sprite) + (base)*20)*(brightpowder) if the sprite multiplier is equal to or above 20 (everything else)


Where (brightpowder) is 20 if BP is present and BP breeding is possible, or 1 otherwise.


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The exact formulas are...

retros:

(base)*(sprite)*(brightpowder)

special nature:

3*(base)*(sprite)*(brightpowder) if the sprite multiplier is below 20 (HGSS, HGSS2, Pt, Pt2, DP, DP2, FRLG, RS, Emerald, Gold, Silver, Crystal)

(2*(base)*(sprite) + (base)*20)*(brightpowder) if the sprite multiplier is equal to or above 20 (everything else)


Where (brightpowder) is 20 if BP is present and BP breeding is possible, or 1 otherwise.

Ah, this is really helpful! Thanks so much! I'll add these formulas ASAP. :D

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Thanks for creating this guide! It's extremely helpful to have all of these formulas for complicated breeding~

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Thank you so much for this! This guide is very thorough and will prove to be amazingly convenient. I literally just got my Everstone a few hours ago, and I feel much more confident about breaking it in now~ Though I've pored over all the relevant announcements explaining these topics once or twice, seeing all the information compiled so effectively is really, really nice.

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